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2 years ago | 22 notes
Guess I was wrong about Steve staying dead:"This is a very different kind of team book,” says Geoff Johns. “On first glance, people might think the heroes of the JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA stand in the shadows of Superman, Wonder Woman and the rest of the JUSTICE LEAGUE, but Green Arrow, Katana, Martian Manhunter, the new Green Lantern, Stargirl, Vibe, Hawkman and Catwoman thrive in the shadows. They’re underdogs who have everything to prove and something to lose. They’re a team of unlikely heroes who will help one another discover they’re as A-List as anybody — yes, even Vibe. Though getting there won’t be easy. Why they’re formed, why each member joins, what they’re after and who the society of villains is they’re trying to take apart will all be clear in the first issue when it hits early 2013. David and I are really focused on delving deep into what it’s like to not be a member of the big seven and why, sometimes, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.”

And it looks like Superman-Wonder Woman will play out in the individual books instead.

At least, I hope it will… because this means a more diverse team with a readable Catwoman.

Guess I was wrong about Steve staying dead:

"This is a very different kind of team book,” says Geoff Johns. “On first glance, people might think the heroes of the JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA stand in the shadows of Superman, Wonder Woman and the rest of the JUSTICE LEAGUE, but Green Arrow, Katana, Martian Manhunter, the new Green Lantern, Stargirl, Vibe, Hawkman and Catwoman thrive in the shadows. They’re underdogs who have everything to prove and something to lose. They’re a team of unlikely heroes who will help one another discover they’re as A-List as anybody — yes, even Vibe. Though getting there won’t be easy. Why they’re formed, why each member joins, what they’re after and who the society of villains is they’re trying to take apart will all be clear in the first issue when it hits early 2013. David and I are really focused on delving deep into what it’s like to not be a member of the big seven and why, sometimes, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side.”

And it looks like Superman-Wonder Woman will play out in the individual books instead.

At least, I hope it will… because this means a more diverse team with a readable Catwoman.

2 years ago | 1 note

Also, DC, seriously. Don’t be trying to convince us ARGUS is a secret. Every other agency is secret, there’s at least a public face to the one that supports the League.

It actually makes it unique that it’s a publicly known government agency with a director that is always being hounded by the press.

2 years ago | 19 notes
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romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9
I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

… You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.
However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

on that note, what IS Steve’s job for the justice league? Does he work with publicity, damage/police reports, merchandise deals? Diplomat? I don’t envy his job if that’s it.

They covered this in Justice League 7-8 and in the FCBD day book (It’s on Comixology now, not terribly good but we get a nice scene of Steve having a headache and it is free.) From what I gather he makes sure the press thinks the League members walk on water (and that any mistakes are blamed on other people, and not the League), that Congress doesn’t take over the League and try to dissect Superman or something, that there are medical, emergency and other support personnel around for the bystanders, that the fight scenes are cleaned up and made safe for the public when the League goes away, that people like Green Arrow who want to join the League are given something else to do, that someone is around to fight monsters when the League is not there (and probably makes sure that they are contacted somehow), that Green Lantern is regularly fed (this is seriously something Hal asks about), and that all of the magic items and stuff they find are secured and guard. He probably also makes sure the villains get sent to prison.
It is a horrible, horrible job and I think I’ll be sad if he gets moved out of it and sent to Wonder Woman this fall when this storyline ends.

lol poor Steve
I’m just imagining him at his desk with mountains upon mountains of papers and work and just crying over his terrible luck
thank god he’s being written well for once, though, instead of a misogynistic ass

Oh, Johns has alleviated so much panic after that animated movie.  So much.  (And this last issue managed to kill BOTH of my big fears about where this storyline would go.)  I’m really thankful he got the chance to establish and make us feel for this guy before Azzarello gets at him.
I still insist that this is the same old character, though.   The character traits are like a blend of all the pre-Crisis versions.  Yeah, he had some awful moments pre-Crisis but it generally stupid period sexism stuff like Superman and Batman had. He was about as bad about generalizing women as the narrator was.  Hell, he looked better than most of the superheroes because he wasn’t constantly gaslighting or bossing around his girlfriend.  Johns managed to separate the character traits that worked from the “heh heh, old comics are so sexist” stuff we all laugh at.  So it’s like the Bronze Age Steve in the quiet moments, but he acts like the Silver Age Steve when he interacts with Diana and the Golden Age Steve when he talks to Congress or the Press.It looks like Johns is like me for the Post-Crisis Steve, and figures that was just a different character.  He’s not unlikable, and has enough similarities, but he can’t really be reconciled with the other three, the TV Steves, or the animated Steve.  Fingers crossed a Steve Sr will surface as a love interest for Etta.

thesunfloweramazon:

ragnell:

thesunfloweramazon:

ragnell:

romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9

I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

… You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.

However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

on that note, what IS Steve’s job for the justice league? Does he work with publicity, damage/police reports, merchandise deals? Diplomat? I don’t envy his job if that’s it.

They covered this in Justice League 7-8 and in the FCBD day book (It’s on Comixology now, not terribly good but we get a nice scene of Steve having a headache and it is free.) From what I gather he makes sure the press thinks the League members walk on water (and that any mistakes are blamed on other people, and not the League), that Congress doesn’t take over the League and try to dissect Superman or something, that there are medical, emergency and other support personnel around for the bystanders, that the fight scenes are cleaned up and made safe for the public when the League goes away, that people like Green Arrow who want to join the League are given something else to do, that someone is around to fight monsters when the League is not there (and probably makes sure that they are contacted somehow), that Green Lantern is regularly fed (this is seriously something Hal asks about), and that all of the magic items and stuff they find are secured and guard. He probably also makes sure the villains get sent to prison.

It is a horrible, horrible job and I think I’ll be sad if he gets moved out of it and sent to Wonder Woman this fall when this storyline ends.

lol poor Steve

I’m just imagining him at his desk with mountains upon mountains of papers and work and just crying over his terrible luck

thank god he’s being written well for once, though, instead of a misogynistic ass

Oh, Johns has alleviated so much panic after that animated movie. So much. (And this last issue managed to kill BOTH of my big fears about where this storyline would go.) I’m really thankful he got the chance to establish and make us feel for this guy before Azzarello gets at him.

I still insist that this is the same old character, though. The character traits are like a blend of all the pre-Crisis versions. Yeah, he had some awful moments pre-Crisis but it generally stupid period sexism stuff like Superman and Batman had. He was about as bad about generalizing women as the narrator was. Hell, he looked better than most of the superheroes because he wasn’t constantly gaslighting or bossing around his girlfriend. Johns managed to separate the character traits that worked from the “heh heh, old comics are so sexist” stuff we all laugh at. So it’s like the Bronze Age Steve in the quiet moments, but he acts like the Silver Age Steve when he interacts with Diana and the Golden Age Steve when he talks to Congress or the Press.

It looks like Johns is like me for the Post-Crisis Steve, and figures that was just a different character. He’s not unlikable, and has enough similarities, but he can’t really be reconciled with the other three, the TV Steves, or the animated Steve. Fingers crossed a Steve Sr will surface as a love interest for Etta.

(Source: batgorilla)

Via co-dictator in the land of lady romancers
2 years ago | 10 notes

Actually, one of the most amusing aspects of Justice League is how Johns makes sure we feel a little bad for Steve by showing the hassle he gets for having been involved with Wonder Woman.

After all, that’s always one of the problems cited. “What’s he done to deserve her?” and a general attitude of “No one should be that lucky” among fans. And as much as we argue she’s not a prize, there’s still that thing we can’t shake. That idea that a character who gets to be happy has to have suffered for it, and male characters and female characters in fiction suffer in different ways.

So Johns, rather than have Steve suffer for the right to be Wonder Woman’s love interest by being a Big Damn Hero like a male character does, makes him suffer as the hassled, miserable, unappreciated tireless support staff of the Justice League and as the endangered target. Y’know, like a female character suffers. And he does it in a way where just about everyone I’ve seen who’s reviewed it has empathized with him, liked him, cited him and Diana as one of the reasons to keep reading.

2 years ago | 19 notes
thesunfloweramazon:

ragnell:

romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9
I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

… You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.
However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

on that note, what IS Steve’s job for the justice league? Does he work with publicity, damage/police reports, merchandise deals? Diplomat? I don’t envy his job if that’s it. 

They covered this in Justice League 7-8 and in the FCBD day book (It’s on Comixology now, not terribly good but we get a nice scene of Steve having a headache and it is free.)  From what I gather he makes sure the press thinks the League members walk on water (and that any mistakes are blamed on other people, and not the League), that Congress doesn’t take over the League and try to dissect Superman or something, that there are medical, emergency and other support personnel around for the bystanders, that the fight scenes are cleaned up and made safe for the public when the League goes away, that people like Green Arrow who want to join the League are given something else to do, that someone is around to fight monsters when the League is not there (and probably makes sure that they are contacted somehow), that Green Lantern is regularly fed (this is seriously something Hal asks about), and that all of the magic items and stuff they find are secured and guard.  He probably also makes sure the villains get sent to prison.
It is a horrible, horrible job and I think I’ll be sad if he gets moved out of it and sent to Wonder Woman this fall when this storyline ends.

thesunfloweramazon:

ragnell:

romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9

I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

… You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.

However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

on that note, what IS Steve’s job for the justice league? Does he work with publicity, damage/police reports, merchandise deals? Diplomat? I don’t envy his job if that’s it.

They covered this in Justice League 7-8 and in the FCBD day book (It’s on Comixology now, not terribly good but we get a nice scene of Steve having a headache and it is free.) From what I gather he makes sure the press thinks the League members walk on water (and that any mistakes are blamed on other people, and not the League), that Congress doesn’t take over the League and try to dissect Superman or something, that there are medical, emergency and other support personnel around for the bystanders, that the fight scenes are cleaned up and made safe for the public when the League goes away, that people like Green Arrow who want to join the League are given something else to do, that someone is around to fight monsters when the League is not there (and probably makes sure that they are contacted somehow), that Green Lantern is regularly fed (this is seriously something Hal asks about), and that all of the magic items and stuff they find are secured and guard. He probably also makes sure the villains get sent to prison.

It is a horrible, horrible job and I think I’ll be sad if he gets moved out of it and sent to Wonder Woman this fall when this storyline ends.

(Source: batgorilla)

Via co-dictator in the land of lady romancers
2 years ago | 19 notes
romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9
I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

…  You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.

However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

romanadvoratrelundar:

Justice League 9

I’ve started hearing Steve Trevor’s lines in Rupert Graves’ voice. It might just be because I associate them both with Ragnell.

… You know, Graves does have a nice gravelly voice.

However you read it, isn’t it kind of hilarious that just being Wonder Woman’s ex-boyfriend means Steve dodges paparazzi ALL THE TIME but Aquaman is a legitimate member of the League and can’t get anyone to pay attention to him?

Via Batgorilla
2 years ago | 1 note
  • Question: Looks like I owe you a coke on the Orb of Ra thing. The solicit for JL #11 (the story arc where they're fighting the crazy writer who found the Orb) says Cyborg and Batman fight Element Woman. If she's not one of his kids or something, I'm thinking she's a lackey or servant of some sort he mutated with the Orb who ends up switching sides. - fyeahlilbit3point0
  • Answer:

    I love being right.

    I’m also sure that map’s significant, but I don’t know this area of the DCU well enough.

2 years ago | 2 notes

Storify: Justice League 7

My twittered thoughts on an issue that was pretty much about Wonder Woman’s love life, but that never gave us her point of view.