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James Robinson Back on The Comic Vine Podcast

helenawaynehuntress:

newearth2:

James Robinson is returns to the Comic Vine Podcast this week. It’s looks like it is all about Earth 2 on this podcast. SPOILERS, he drops a huge reveal: 

That [the characters had planned] was all planned from the beginning [i.e. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman knew they were going to die].The reason why Superman dies the way he does is a very important reason for later. The reason why I had Steppenwolf kill Wonder Woman is because there is a character I am creating for EARTH 2 that will directly involve that…Perhaps Wonder Woman… There might just be one [Amazon] left, that’s where I am going with this. As a result, that person hating Steppenwolf…That’s important. You will see the “last Amazon.” The last Amazon was not Wonder Woman as she had thought. There will be a member of this team, down the line, that will be that [Amazon/Wonder Woman] figure.

Who is the last Amazon? Is it Donna Troy, Hippolyta, Fury, Artemis, Cassie Sandmark, or a brand new character?

 Go see what else he had to say.

So you fridged Earth-2 Wonder Woman so you could recycle the same tiresome trope of driving another character? How original James. Stay classy. 

Someone save Earth-2 from this man please. 

Hmm. Maybe he did remember Lyta Trevor.

Ehh, still not worth it. I’d rather she be in the book by the better writer.

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

77% Recycled From Other Tumblrs: “It’s still the destruction of Krypton that motivates Superman.”- James Robinson, re: Earth 2

snappily:

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

snappily:

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uh-huh.

James Robinson have you ever even read a Superman story or…?

James Robinson’s understanding of Superman is clearly very surface level.

Superman has NEVER been motivated by the destruction of Krypton. He’s not motivated by…

I feel I should clarify, just for accuracy’s sake, that it’s kind of vague whether he’s saying “My Superman is still motivated by the destruction of Krypton, like Superman always has been” or “My Superman is one who carries the tragedy of Krypton with him, even now, as his primary motivation,” but in either case, it’s bogus. Robinson clearly has no grasp of Diana or Clark.

Except either way, that makes no fucking sense.  

If Superman’s primary motivation in his book is the destruction of Krypton and THAT is a loss that still weighs on him….then why the hell was it necessary to kill Lois off?

He defended on the podcast that he HAD to kill her because she was the person that meant the most to him and that was the “only way” to change his worldview.  (Yeah, it’s the only way if you are completely lazy and uncreative.)

So he can’t have it both ways.

If this Superman is truly damaged from the destruction of Krypton then killing Lois off shouldn’t have been his go-to because it shouldn’t have been necessary to motivate him if she was never his motivation to begin with.

So if that’s true…that means he killed her for absolutely no fucking reason.  

God I hate James Robinson.  I legitimately hate him.

Don’t even get me started on Diana “I have to avenge the Amazons” totally-out-of character- behavior.   Don’t get me started on why the hell Clark isn’t looking at her like she’s lost her freaking mind and asking her if she needs help.   

Well, it’s not like she’s seen the death of her mother and entire nation before and not freaked out. Multiple times. Like, right now in Azzarello’s run.

(Source: kotaku.com)

77% Recycled From Other Tumblrs: "It's still the destruction of Krypton that motivates Superman."- James Robinson, re: Earth 2

snappily:

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

snappily:

…

uh-huh.

James Robinson have you ever even read a Superman story or…?

James Robinson’s understanding of Superman is clearly very surface level.

Superman has NEVER been motivated by the destruction of Krypton. He’s not motivated by…

I feel I should clarify, just for accuracy’s sake, that it’s kind of vague whether he’s saying “My Superman is still motivated by the destruction of Krypton, like Superman always has been” or “My Superman is one who carries the tragedy of Krypton with him, even now, as his primary motivation,” but in either case, it’s bogus. Robinson clearly has no grasp of Diana or Clark.

Still yeah, that makes killing Lois really pointless. Robinson was always an overkill writer, though.

“It’s still the destruction of Krypton that motivates Superman.”- James Robinson, re: Earth 2

therearecertainshadesoflimelight:

snappily:

… 

uh-huh.

James Robinson have you ever even read a Superman story or…?

James Robinson’s understanding of Superman is clearly very surface level.

Superman has NEVER been motivated by the destruction of Krypton.  He’s not motivated by death.  That’s BATMAN.  Superman is motivated to do the right thing because he was raised by two loving, caring humans who loved him as their child.   His motivation is his love for humanity as manifested through his parents and Lois Lane.

And on Earth-2, Lois’s important to that motivation has been paramount for decades as that was the one Earth even decades ago where they were truly allowed to share honesty and a live together free from the bounds of sexism.

Also, here’s the problem….

Robinson killed Lois off.   Now, he can’t have it both ways.  He can’t claim that Superman has all this intense man pain over losing her and he can’t argue on a podcast that he HAD to kill her because “she is the closest person to Superman” and argue that “if the closest person to Superman was his brother then I would have killed his brother” (which btw, is just not true.  If Lois was a man and not a lover, she wouldn’t be killed off nearly as often as she is) then you can’t proclaim that Superman still has the same motivation as he did before because then killing her becomes completely MEANINGLESS.

If her death doesn’t matter then Robinson killed her senselessly and for nothing.

Basically?  James Robinson is a complete asshole.  Sorry, he is.   He is an absolute asshole.

I love Nicola Scott.  But she could not be attached to a worse writer.

Wow, he seriously said that?

That makes like, no sense. If he was motivated by the destruction of Krypton, he’d be a freaking environmentalism, fighting constantly against cosmic disaster. Instead he takes on Lex Luthor. Even in the early days, he’s just going after bullies, he’s not patrolling for asteroids or lobbying for the sort of science education that would make a warning like Jor-El’s be heeded.

No wonder his Superman sucks.

Someone ask him about Wonder Woman. I need to know how he came up with his completely idiotic interpretation.

Food for thought: Lois Lane has been killed off in more AUs than Steve Trevor, but that’s because Steve Trevor never makes it to AUs. He’s been killed at least 5 times in-continuity if you count Flashpoint. Lois has died twice in-continuity, I think. Infinite Crisis and Flashpoint.

(Source: kotaku.com)

Oh, can we just skip to the next Crisis already?

helenawaynehuntress:

ragnell:

James Robinson on Earth-2

Geek: And just to sneak in one last question: are we going to get a younger, sexier Ma Hunkle?

JR: I can neither deny or confirm that.

I’ll gladly skip to the next Crisis if it means bringing back the real Earth-2 where heroes actually aged, married, had children AND said kids grew up to see adulthood and form Infinity Inc.

I’ll gladly skip to the next Crisis if it means reinstating Lois Lane as Superman’s LIVING wife on Earth-2 and not as a prop to turn Superman into Batman.

I’ll gladly skip to the next Crisis if it means letting Selina LIVE long enough to see her daughter grow up into an adult and be part of her upbringing.

I’ll gladly skip to the next Crisis if it means reinstating the Amazons as LIVING warriors for PEACE on Earth-2 and allowing Wonder Woman to marry Steve Trevor and raise a daughter with him

I’ll gladly skip to the next Crisis if it means keeping Ma Hunkle as the badass old lady who let Power Girl cry on her shoulder when she was feeling sad and needed someone to listen.

It’s out there, somewhere in the Aether. Waiting for better editors to allow it.

Oh, can we just skip to the next Crisis already?

James Robinson on Earth-2

Geek: And just to sneak in one last question: are we going to get a younger, sexier Ma Hunkle?

JR: I can neither deny or confirm that.