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Seriously?

philippos42:

calluvion:

amazonboytoy:

Okay, so seeing her with the costume doesn’t clue him in. So what happens when he sees just her face with glasses?

Please note, she was hiding behind the drapes the whole time and clearly didn’t have the tiara on in the second panel.

Wonder Woman #139 and Wonder Woman #171

STEVE. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.

One of them is really stupid. Whether it’s her for thinking he can’t tell she’s the same person when she changes her clothes, or him for really not being able to tell she’s the same person when she changes her clothes. Or they’re like those two Astro City characters who just mess with each other to mess with each other, but her reactions here don’t indicate that.

When people talk about bringing back “classic” Wondy, with the secret identity and Steve Trevor, I get a bit upset. She’s a nutjob. I don’t want her back. I like the post-Crisis Diana.

Oh, lighten up Phil. This post was meant to be a good-natured joke.

But if you must open the argument, EVERY Silver Age character was illogical to a point. They used to have a webpage based entirely around how sadistic Silver Age Superman seemed. Comic fans shudder at the old Batman stuff. Wonder Woman was no more absurd than Superman or Lois Lane. That’s because the writers and artists pushing out multiple titles every month no matter what. That’s why we make jokes about the results. That doesn’t change that there was actually this intense optimism and creativity to the time.

When people talk about bringing back Classic Wonder Woman, they talk about the classic setup, the classic adventure, and complex characterization for modern audiences like we just barely started to have in the Bronze Age before the reboot set the freaking franchise on fire.

See, I get upset when people talk about how horrible Classic Wondy was, and how much better the Post-Crisis version is after so many amazing ideas with incredible potential were tossed aside, after stories with a entire race of incredible women who can do incredible things because they weren’t held back by sexism were traded in for a heavy-handed High Fantasy morality play where the Amazons make NO decisions without direct orders from the gods, Diana’s religion seems to just worship a bunch of squabbling super-beings that she can punch in the face whenever she wants, Wonder Woman is fated to forever wage a no-win battle where every individual failure drives home just how little hope our culture has, and a society of pagan women that worship a goddess of Wisdom and have the equivalent of the library of Alexandria at their fingertips twiddle their thumbs for 3000 years without even coming up with a fucking steam engine. Oh, and every villain but Circe and Dr. Psycho got rewritten from scratch (whether they needed it or not), and each writer feels the need to completely change the setting because they need room to create new elements that she already had set up in the Golden and Silver Age.

Damn it, Classic Wonder Woman had super-science, a bright outlook, hope, love, and humor. The men were actually decent human beings, the women were the active players in the story, the Amazons were a truly advanced society (showing both pagans and women as rational human beings) and Gods were of such power and presence that Diana’s religion actually made as much sense as that of the Christians she worked with. All that AND a unique supporting cast in the military (aside from Diana, only Captain America has always had a heavily military supporting cast so that’s actually one of her rarest aspects) that would allow writers to explore Amazon culture vs American culture, traditional masculinity and femininity, heroism, thoughtful war vs savage war, the Law of Armed Conflict, service and selflessness, being a warrior vs being a soldier, personal loyalty vs. country loyalty, and sexual harassment. (The Gen. Darnell-Diana Prince contrast to Wonder Woman-Steve Trevor was amazing for the 80s, and they missed a grand opportunity to revisit it in the 90s when there was a surge of sexual harassment awareness, particularly of military sexual harassment.)

I used to be fine with Post-Crisis Wonder Woman, then I started reading back issues and found out the rich history they thoughtlessly threw away before they really had a chance to update it.